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 Post subject: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:07 am 
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The following observations are from my experience at obtaining a “family” residence permit in Istanbul in July, 2015. (Being married to a Turk, I was eligible for the family permit, although it’s questionable as to whether there are any advantages to a family permit.)

I’m writing it because I found a scarcity of comprehensive online advice from others who had trod this road before me – some of which was inaccurate or incomplete - and I hope that the information is of use to others.

In June I completed an online application for a residence permit (ikamet). I allowed myself a month to gather the various supporting documents that I needed, and took an appointment in July. Make sure that you print out the online confirmation of your appointment and your application and bring them with you to the appointment. Unless you are reasonably fluent in Turkish, I would suggest that you take a bilingual Turkish friend with you.

The office where the applications are issued in Istanbul is in Aksaray, about 500 meters from the Emniyet-Fatih Metro station. On entering the building there is a security check and then a passport check. The next step is up two floors to the information desk (danisma) where the look at your appointment confirmation and assign you to a desk where your application will be reviewed by a clerk. The desks are identified by a single letter and a number. (eg A8).

The documents I gathered were:

1. A print-out of the online confirmation of the appointment.
2. A print-out of the online application for the permit.
3. A copy of the key pages of my passport – including the page with the last entry stamp for Turkey.
4. Four passport photos.
5. My passport and my previous residence permit – which I was foolish enough to allow to expire and not renew within the short grace period which I believe is two weeks from the date of expiry. If you allow a permit to expire and exceed this grace period, then you have to begin again and apply for a new permit, which entails more documentation than a renewal.
6. A copy of my current e-visa.
7. A document from the local government official (muhtar) confirming my address.
8. A copy of the document (tapu) which confirmed ownership of our apartment.
9. A copy of our marriage certificate.
10. Two copies of my wife’s identity card (kimlik).
11. Two passport photos of my wife.
12. A document confirming my registration number (yabanci kimlik).

I had read somewhere online that a police clearance letter from my home country was required. I applied for one, had it translated and notarized, but am still not sure that it is actually required. In any case, the permit office official did keep it.

I had also read about the requirement for proof of health insurance coverage. I obtained this only to learn that it is not required for anyone over sixty-five, such as myself.

What we had not been prepared for was a Turkish police clearance letter for my wife. (This is required only when you’re applying for a family residence permit, and it necessitated a return trip to the permit office at a later date. In addition, we were required to bring a bank-book confirming that we had sufficient funds in our account to support ourselves. However, the official gave us another appointment at our convenience. I understand, however, that you are allowed up to 30 days to provide them with any missing support documents.

When the official has completed her/his work on your documents, you will be given a slip of paper showing the amount of the fee. The cashier’s office is on the first floor above ground, and the hours are currently 08:30 – 12:15 and 1:00 – 4:00. Keep these hours in mind when booking your appointment. If your appointment is late in the afternoon, you may have to make a second trip if the cashier is closed. My cost was 55TL for the permit book and $145 for a two-year permit.

It takes several weeks before you receive your permit book. However, you’ll be given a document confirming that one is forthcoming. We were advised by an official that this would allow me to travel during the waiting period and to enter Turkey without another visa.

We were advised that renewals or extensions to the residence permit can be handled by mail. Whether or not it can be done online was not clear.

Bill Bey.


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 Post subject: Re: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:15 pm 
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Interesting read Bill,just to clarify on a couple of points for you.....

"It takes several weeks before you receive your permit book".[ It will probably be 2 months . You will receive a text with a tracking barcode from the PTT when your package leaves Ankara]

"However, you’ll be given a document confirming that one is forthcoming. We were advised by an official that this would allow me to travel during the waiting period and to enter Turkey without another visa." [ The form allows you to travel in & out of Turkey for a total of 15 days only & must be accompanied by your photocopies of your two payment receipts.]

"We were advised that renewals or extensions to the residence permit can be handled by mail. Whether or not it can be done online was not clear." [Extensions,like First applications are applied for online,but no visit is needed,you post your paperwork to your provincial GOC office.]


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:28 am 
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Thanks for the quick response to my posting and for the information.

I asked at the ikamet office in Istanbul about travel outside Turkey while waiting for the ikamet to arrive and was told that I could travel - no limits were mentioned. On the strength of that assurance, I booked a trip that will have me outside of the country for 18 days.

Is the 15-day limit mandatory for all, and can you offer any suggestions as to what might happen should I go beyond the 15-day limit?

Advice or comments from others on the forum would be much appreciated.

Bill.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:53 pm 
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Bill the GDMM state you can stay out for more than 15 days & come back on an evisa,but your RP application will be cancelled.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 29, 2015 3:39 pm 
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Thanks, Redders, for the additional information. We asked at the office what the consequences might be if I stayed out beyond the 15 days and two different officials said that there would be "no problem". (Now, where have I heard that before :)

Can you cite your authority for your advice that we'd have to start all over again?

Thanks for your help,

Bill.


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 Post subject: Re: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:16 pm 
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The below taken from the GOC website.....

Will there be any punitive sanction against the foreigners who has made a residence permit application and gone abroad without waiting for issuance of the permit document?
The foreigners, who have applied for a residence permit and left Turkey for a short period of time to return back without waiting for the issuance of the permit documents, may leave the country without paying a fine on the residence fee, provided that it occurs within the residence permit duration they have requested and they submit the fee receipts (except for those who are stated in the document to be exempt from the fee) together with their application documents during exit from the border gates, and may enter into the country without receiving a visa even if they are citizens of a country subject to visa, provided that they return back within fifteen (15) days.


A good friend of mine went to the Mugla office,showed the manager this and asked what would happen if he stayed out over 15 days,to be told he could come back on an evisa legally,but there was a good chance his RP application would be cancelled if they found out.This may not be a problem right now,but very soon the computers between the immigration Polis & the GOC offices will be sync'd..that's when the problems begin. Naturally we won't be given any notice when that happens.


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 Post subject: Re: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Sun Aug 09, 2015 6:48 am 
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Thanks again for the information, Redders. I'll be testing it out in a few weeks and will post the results of my experience.

Bill.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 7:58 am 
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As promised, I'm updating readers on my recent ikamet experience.

After completing the application process and having had the interview, I was given a document confirming that I was awaiting my ikamet. (The document actually said that the ikamet was effective on the date on which I had originally applied). I was also given a receipt for the 400+ liras that I paid for it.

Officials at the ikamet office assured me that travel in excess of the 15-day limit would not be a problem. I left the country for a cruise and returned 18 days later. The passport officer at the airport made a phone call and then said that 15 days was the limit. However, he looked the other way and said "you're within the 15 days". He waved me on without a visa and without any penalty for exceeding the 15 days.

I hope that this information is of use to other readers.

Bill Bey.


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 Post subject: Re: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Tue Sep 08, 2015 8:01 am 
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In my last posting I neglected to mention that my ikamet appointment in Istabul was on July 23/15 and as of Sept 7/15 I have had no further news from officials re: my ikamet.

Bill Bey.


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 Post subject: Re: Current procedure for residence permits
PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 7:14 am 
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It's now Oct.20 and there's still no sign of my ikamet or any email saying that it's on the way.

We visited the Aksaray office last week and were told that it will be delivered to the local post office, stay there for two months, then be returned to the Aksaray office where it will wait to be picked up - apparently indefinitely.

The saga continues...

Bill Bey.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:13 am 
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It's now July 21/16 and I finally have received the ikamet that I applied for a year ago. It's now possible to chat online with the authorities. Doing this, we learned that the ikamet had been approved last October and sent to us by PTT. However, it was incorrectly addressed and instead went to the ikamet office on Vatan Caddesi in Fatih.
We went there and finally picked up the ikamet.

Extensions to a residence permit can now be applied for online. However, the website is not clear as to exactly what documents are required with the application.

If anyone has information in that regard, I'd appreciate knowing it.

Thanks,

Bill Bey.


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These are the required documents as per the GOC website,but your interviewer is at liberty to ask for extra documentation if he so desires.


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