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 Post subject: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 11:52 am 
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Hi,

I'm from the UK and I have been living in Istanbul ( on the Asian side - Kadikoy area) since mid September. Before I joined this site I had a good giggle this morning over coffee at some of the forums I read, particularly the one about children and their education in Istanbul :)) I am a primary school teacher by profession and understand EXACTLY what parents concerns are about placing their children in schools here. Since the move to Istanbul I've had a short, sharp, shock treatment when it comes to international private education :)) I honestly believe, the cost, the promises, the fancy advertising does not reflect the reality. Although, I want you to understand that I am making a generalised statement, there will be happy cases I'm sure and aware that not all schools will have the same ethos.

My experience:

Within two weeks of my arrival I got a job...I was ecstatic! A week later I resigned....( not going to name and shame) let's just say 'a newly built, unstructured and disorganised pre-school'. Towards the end of my first working week there I approached the principle about transport to and from the school (which was promised to me), and also to discuss my role as an English teacher ( which I was employed to do) as I felt that I was not fulfilling my job description by having to change nappies and generally acting as a baby sitter during the whole day. When I approached her ( she spoke very little English herself BTW) she replied that she didn't know anything really about me and what my job was to do and that I needed to speak to the head manager of the centres who interviewed me. I didn't turn up the following day but did air my grievances with the centre manager and I also gave some pointers as to health and safety in such premises.

A week after that, ANOTHER school - another job....guess what???? I left after a week AGAIN! I want to make it clear now that previously I had never resigned from a position in my life and always been satisfied. I started to think what's going on with me! Is it me? Am I not happy here? Are my concerns genuine and it's not just about me being fussy? I just couldn't accept the way that the children behaved in that school and what was obviously viewed as the norm. For instance, watching children screaming and tearing up and down corridors and the lack of adult respect in and around school to me rang alarm bells. When I spoke to the principle and expressed my concerns she asked me what did I think the school needed to do to improve the behaviour ( as they had an ongoing problem) and whether I have any ideas for a behaviour policy for them to put in place. I was shocked! I left and said I really didn't want to take on that kind of responsibility...

However, with these initial BAD experiences I was not determined to let it put me off teaching here :))

I have kept myself busy and during December I trained as an ESL teacher and now have an additional qualification to add to my C.V. I can honestly say, although intense, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the course. I was back in a proper classroom in a proper role! It felt good ;) I'm currently now seeking work as an English teacher for children and adults. I'm still undecided as to which is the best way for me to go. Do I try again and not let my intial experiences affect my judgment of other international schools? Do I go private and offer 1 to 1 English tuition for children and adults? Or should I sacrifice my weekends and the chance of a decent pay packet by accepting a job offer from an English school looking for tutors? I don't know...Or even do something entirely different???

I am wondering if there are any teachers who have had similar feelings and experiences to me since moving to Istanbul. For those of you who have made it a success here as a teacher, how did you make it work? Any advice about GOOD schools or reputable agencies situated on the Asian side that you know of would be really helpful.


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 Post subject: Teacher job descriptions
PostPosted: Fri Jun 04, 2010 4:22 pm 
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These are many positions of Teacher department. It can include:

1. Teacher associate
2. Teacher executive
3. Teacher supervisor
4. Teacher specialist
5. Teacher director
6. Teacher assistant
7. Teacher manager
8. Teacher assistant manager
9. Teacher clerk
10. Teacher officer
11. Teacher coordinator

Based on the above positions can help you to set up Teacher dept, design job descriptions, Teacher interview questions.

I hope that this comment can help some info for our communities.

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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:38 am 
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A lot depends on your educational qualifications. Do you have a degree? What experience do you have? the best schools on the Asian side are Istik, Koc and Sabanci.

If you can get a PGCE from England you will do much better here


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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 2:03 pm 
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Hi taylorgirl2, nenupharvn and everyone else.

taylorgirl2: I, too, am sorely frustrated with the private schools here. My only experience in Turkey was teaching high school academic writing for the most part and the next school just threw me into primary and middle school classes that no one else wanted. I told my supervisor that I had no experience with these ages in Turkey. To make it worse there was no curriculum, no departmental attempt to prepare syllibi and in fact there was no coordination initiated on behalf of the head of dept, management or senior staff. This lack of initial support made increasingly difficult to keep kids in their seats and give them materials they can follow and learn with. I continuously asked for advice, and last Friday I was given the proverbial slap on the ass from corporate threatening to blacklist me. Just an absolutely awful year and I have just a short time to find another decent paying position to keep me in Turkey.

nenupharvn: How can I get concerning the types of job titles you listed?

I had already posted seperately regarding unis and intl schools. How about some useful information and kick in the right direction?

Thanks to all,

Jacob


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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:52 am 
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Canada wrote:
A lot depends on your educational qualifications. Do you have a degree? What experience do you have? the best schools on the Asian side are Istik, Koc and Sabanci.

If you can get a PGCE from England you will do much better here



Hi canada, it's been a while since I have been on this forum and just read these posts. I have a teaching degree, 4 yrs instruction at York University ( BA in primary Education)...I was a classteacher in the UK, registered with the GTC in England, so a 1 yr PGCE is far from necessary. Since putting on this topic I have been working privately, mostly with children and I've been happy going down this route.


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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:52 pm 
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taylorgirl2 wrote:
Canada wrote:
A lot depends on your educational qualifications. Do you have a degree? What experience do you have? the best schools on the Asian side are Istik, Koc and Sabanci.

If you can get a PGCE from England you will do much better here



Hi canada, it's been a while since I have been on this forum and just read these posts. I have a teaching degree, 4 yrs instruction at York University ( BA in primary Education)...I was a classteacher in the UK, registered with the GTC in England, so a 1 yr PGCE is far from necessary. Since putting on this topic I have been working privately, mostly with children and I've been happy going down this route.


Hi,

I agreed with you. Any way, your points of view make me thinking about some thing for my project.

Pls try to keep posting. Tks and best regards


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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
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I would like to have a tutor to make conversation in English. Those who are interested please kindly get in touch with me at mkilicoglu(at)hotmail


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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2014 8:22 am 
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taylorgirl2 wrote:
Hi,

I'm from the UK and I have been living in Istanbul ( on the Asian side - Kadikoy area) since mid September. Before I joined this site I had a good giggle this morning over coffee at some of the forums I read, particularly the one about children and their education in Istanbul :)) I am a primary school teacher by profession and understand EXACTLY what parents concerns are about placing their children in schools here. Since the move to Istanbul I've had a short, sharp, shock treatment when it comes to international private education :)) I honestly believe, the cost, the promises, the fancy advertising does not reflect the reality. Although, I want you to understand that I am making a generalised statement, there will be happy cases I'm sure and aware that not all schools will have the same ethos.

My experience:

Within two weeks of my arrival I got a job...I was ecstatic! A week later I resigned....( not going to name and shame) let's just say 'a newly built, unstructured and disorganised pre-school'. Towards the end of my first working week there I approached the principle about transport to and from the school (which was promised to me), and also to discuss my role as an English teacher ( which I was employed to do) as I felt that I was not fulfilling my job description by having to change nappies and generally acting as a baby sitter during the whole day. When I approached her ( she spoke very little English herself BTW) she replied that she didn't know anything really about me and what my job was to do and that I needed to speak to the head manager of the centres who interviewed me. I didn't turn up the following day but did air my grievances with the centre manager and I also gave some pointers as to health and safety in such premises.

A week after that, ANOTHER school - another job....guess what???? I left after a week AGAIN! I want to make it clear now that previously I had never resigned from a position in my life and always been satisfied. I started to think what's going on with me! Is it me? Am I not happy here? Are my concerns genuine and it's not just about me being fussy? I just couldn't accept the way that the children behaved in that school and what was obviously viewed as the norm. For instance, watching children screaming and tearing up and down corridors and the lack of adult respect in and around school to me rang alarm bells. When I spoke to the principle and expressed my concerns she asked me what did I think the school needed to do to improve the behaviour ( as they had an ongoing problem) and whether I have any ideas for a behaviour policy for them to put in place. I was shocked! I left and said I really didn't want to take on that kind of responsibility...

However, with these initial BAD experiences I was not determined to let it put me off teaching here :))

I have kept myself busy and during December I trained as an ESL teacher and now have an additional qualification to add to my C.V. I can honestly say, although intense, I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of the course. I was back in a proper classroom in a proper role! It felt good ;) I'm currently now seeking work as an English teacher for children and adults. I'm still undecided as to which is the best way for me to go. Do I try again and not let my intial experiences affect my judgment of other international schools? Do I go private and offer 1 to 1 English tuition for children and adults? Or should I sacrifice my weekends and the chance of a decent pay packet by accepting a job offer from an English school looking for tutors? I don't know...Or even do something entirely different???

I am wondering if there are any teachers who have had similar feelings and experiences to me since moving to Istanbul. For those of you who have made it a success here as a teacher, how did you make it work? Any advice about GOOD schools or reputable agencies situated on the Asian side that you know of would be really helpful.



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 Post subject: Re: A confused and disgruntled English teacher in Istanbul
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Hi, I am not a teacher, just a parent who was looking for a good schools on Asian side. Have heard a lot of good staff about Key Stone International, few teaches expressed the same opinions as well. Maybe check it out. For now I will try to homeschool my kids, but its nice to hear that caring teachers exist out there :) Good luck!!


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